Comment by windsfeather on June 15, 2009 at 11:02am
The fact is humanity doesn't always prevail. That's why we have courts for compensation. It doesn't mean because you win a case you really win. The loss may actually be greater then the reward. So, humanity does come with a price. The direct targeting of Palestine is a failure of the artist to represent the full picture. The authors ability to bring forth leaders from segments of different cultures was good and yet comming from a journalistic approach it is not a fair hand and wouldn't get accreditation in the major of media. Using the non-combatant CW agent that was used during this war was something the United Nations needs to formally deal with world wide. The fact there are currently CW agents underground in palestine leads to a false truth to real hope to a peaceful action. Using children as a backdrop to ending peace leads me to the brigades who use human sheilds and that is a failure to this piece. If fails to show the tears of all sides. The writing on the wall is merely a reaction to an action from the Hamas and groups wanting to irridicate sector groups. The leader of Israel is simply stating to acknowledge one type. The fact remains all types need to be acknowledged. This piece is just a small sample of failed governments around the world. Their repeated failure to bring structure within its own culture. The problem remains within the problem and the answer is the problem.
And what about justice, Yoram? Real peace can only be built on justice and acknowledgment of the truth.
And the truth is that the Zionist Jews crushed the Palestinian society and continue to do so to this very day, and not the other way around... There are clearly perpetrators and victims in this situation, can't you see that?
If this ugly truth is too strong for your delicate Israeli taste, don't blame the victims!...
Comment by Neri Bar-On on June 14, 2009 at 12:12am
Hiba,
I think that for Israeli mind set some of the statments experienced as contridicting reality - as Israelis presieve it.
But I hope they can tolerate it till the end of the video where the real message is,
Some of the Israelis will not be able to accept the begining statment "It's noly about ...." .
Still what is in the Video real it has happened and still happening no matter how deep some people wanna put their heads in the sand.
No calling for any hostality against the state of Israel, but calling for ending the occupation and the wall which most of it is on Palestinian lands, and stop the violation of human rights. oboviously there is calling for a Palestinian state and in this way peace shall prevail.
Comment by Yoram Getzler on June 13, 2009 at 11:07pm
I can not understand how this one sided, vindictive, victim filled video can possibly contribute to "Peace"
If anything it furthers feelings of hatred and guilt. Hatred on the part of Palestinians and their supporters.
And pushes guilt onto Jews/Israelis.
There is absolutely no attempt at understanding why these things are happening. If anything this video works to stimulate antagonism hostility & animosity It works to justify hatred and feelings of victim hood.
These are all feelings and experiences that work against any kind of reconciliation or "peace"
.On the other hand; in a way it is very informative, if this truly represents the feelings and
understandings and self view of the Palestinian population in the “peace” camp (and it seem to do that) it is easy to see how far we are from being able to reconcile our respective national narratives. and live together on this planet.
This video is a very competently made hate propaganda tool. Do you not understand that one of the requirements to living together is an end to exactly this kind of incitement and distortion ?
This is certainly not the way to myPeace, yourPeace or anyPeace. "
I viewed some of the other videos offered I found that they ALL projected a view that there was only ONE victim, and ONE perpetrator of evil.
Do you really think this can help being peace? Supports attempts at being "peace"?
If this is your idea of peace making ... this is a total sham!
I am not saying that this presentation has no basis, or that the producers have no justification for feeling the way they do. I am just saying that these feelings, however honest do not contribute to any kind of reconciliation between the peoples.
I can understand this being on the Hizbollah/Hammas/Islamic Jihad web site, at least they are honest, they do not pretend, they do not have “peace” pretensions.
I believe mePeace should start now by rejecting the inciting videos currently in the series. And even better; explaining why. I am NOT saying that Hiba and the producers of the videos are incorrect or wrong to feel the way they does, just that those feelings are not helpful in the pursuit of peace. If anything this site should help people understand and refine their feelings for the sake of peace.
It is well put in that video, It is sensible to see that it is not an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth that we could achieve P E A C E between the Israelis and the Palestinians. It is from both sides that I would like to see this happen. There is from both sides people who have enough of this victimisation, what they want is to live in harmony and peace. May The Most Benificent give them this.
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