i have lots to say,,,recently,i'am out of my home living in Italy,thats all for now
Why I want peace:
without peace there is no other way to survive!!!peace for me is bread and water !!!so we cant live without Salam,Shalom,Peace,Paz,Pace,Pau and in all language worldwid!!!we have just to be together to be hand in hand and shoulder by shoulder,not only that but to know that we are HUMANS,the only creature who have mind???????so Lets love each other !!!!
Birthday:
May/1981
Interests and activities:
Active member of different organizations that work for peace
Something you didn't know about me:
Seven times in my life i was to die !!!!!!
How I found mepeace.org:
Friends from the Holy Land
What I want to achieve here:
I'am sorry that i really dont want an electronic friends,i really want a true4 friends that really want peace ,,i want that people can come to my house ,eating,sleeping,telling their stories and suffering,and i wanna do the same ,specially Israelis and Palestinians .....i wanna ask you that i wish in the day of the A'atsmauot,or the Nakba(independence ,or the catstrophy)to be a day of Unique declaration of a NEW Day Has Come !!!for both dreams and both lif's .....i need a true friends who really believe of that things ,,,what i really want more is not to speak for people who want peace,,,,but also for people who dont know what is peace and what is to live in peace.
I just left this message on the Wall of the founder of this site. I can’t accept things like this and continue to write here…
Eyal,
I’m sorry if I seem to bother you again.
As the founder of this site I want to ask you if you really think that it is ok what this peacemaker says? Do you really agree that by this he’s making peace? Do you think that THIS is freedom of speech?
I have stopped to answer him.
I think – this time not of deleting my profile – but in stopping to come here at all, if this is tolerated by the owners of this site.
Can you please answer him?
http://www.mepeace.org/forum/topic/show?id=661876%3ATopic%3A72509&x=1&page=4
Reply by Paul RETI 2 hours ago
Dear Marwa,
You wrote emotionally: "I think Alice should not change" and that she is "kind, open-minded, big-hearted, honest, and a supporters of human rights".
I normally essentially agree with you Marwa. In this case, I think that your assessment of her is demonstrably wrong. Very wrong. You demonstrate that Marwa by what you've written, and by when and how and why you wrote what you did.
You wrote: "What do you want more than that?"
I want people to stop inciting others, especially people like you, Marwa. Alice has demonstrably just done that by falsely claiming victimhood.
You wrote: "Why do you think she should stop?"
Because Marwa you have just demonstrated the insidious effect of what Alice achieves with all her emotional goodness. As result of that emotional goodness, you wrote this Marwa:
"I wish all Jews and Israelis change to become like her, kind, open-minded, big-hearted, honest, and supporters of human rights."
Now Marwa you really know that in plain English what that really means is:
Other than the few nice people like Alice, all Jews and Israelis ARE NOT kind, open-minded, big-hearted, honest, and supporters of human rights.
Now that is both demonstrably very bigoted and demonstrably untrue. But that is precisely the message that Alice continues to send!
Based upon what you've written here before I don't think that you really mean that, Marwa.
On the other hand, based on the number times some others here have repeated such slander, I think that some of what Alice writes implicitly and explicitly slanders Jews and Israelis. And so either her judgment is impaired or she is just trying to buy her way into what she sees as a Jew-hating heaven.
Now do you see Marwa why I so object Alice's simplistic and shallow (and self-serving) generalizations?
Do you now understand Marwa how Alice actually victimizes and so viciously attacks others? She attacks, first. Then she claims to the victim of the response she provoked. That is a classic passive-aggressive game some people here play even better than Alice.
Thank you Marwa for again speaking so plainly and honestly. You've helped me to respond effectively and thoroughly to your very relevant and well-intentioned questions and suggestions.
Keep them coming... I really think that you're the real future. Please continue to honestly question, think, and learn with an open mind and an open heart.
hi Fawas iam habby to see you here and Ihope you visit us in Jenin
i am working as atrainer in humman wrights its good for me to work in this fild for my country
keep tutch
Hi Fawaz,
Sorry for getting back to you so late. I definitely will want to meet you whenever it will be possible! Yes, some of the pictures are from your town! What a disgrace, what a horror - every time I think of these people and the soldiers who are at their service (they could refuse to serve there, as far as I know) gives me goose-bumps. I always admire the immense strenght of the family that still resists them - the family who have to live in that cage - but on the other hand, their amazing resistance helps us to show the true nature of these "creatures" (meaning the settlers of Hebron)... I always have troubles to call human ANYONE who acts in such a way... No matter if Jew or Arab of Chinese or anyone else...
Hugs and looking forward to meeting you in real life!
Salam Fawaz,
I understantd you and I agree with you. It wasn't a critic. I want to say that seeing a palestinian talking for peace while he know what the israelis soldiers did to his compatriots force the respect ! Very few of people can do that ! Only a peace maker can do that. So, total respect my friend !
Hi Fawaz,
Thanks for your kind comment and for your sincerity.
I don't know if you are being to understand me but for me it's really astounding : A man talking for peace while he put a photo of a palestinian shot dead by the Israelis soldiers ! And that's why I'm here for discovering such things and try to understand. Here in Algeria, people are absolutely in ignorance of such things. They think that all the palestinians are for the "war" and that all palestinians are feddayin.
Anyway, Allah Maâk, If one day you decide to come in algeria, my house it's open ! Not because you are a palestinian but because you are a peacemaker ! My house it's open also for all our Israelis friends who fight for peace even against their government and that, believe me, it's not easy!
You gave me exactly the information I was looking for! Now I feel ever more determined to advocate peace in Khalil/Hebron BEFORE al-Quds/Jerusalem. Once conflict ends in Khalil, peace will take root everyone.
Did you see the video I described to you? If you couldn't find it, here is the URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf61OV2joDY
There is precedent for reconciliation in Khalil in the Book of Genesis: the first book of the Tawrat. As you are probably aware, after years of separation, Ishaq and Isma'il, radi Allahu 'anhum, together buried their father Ibrahim, radi Allahu 'anhu.
In Khalil.
But that's not the end of the story! Ishaq had two sons, Esau and Yaqub. Isma'il had many sons and daughters. Though the Jews trace their ancestry through Ibrahim, Ishaq, and Yaqub, the older son, Esau, decided that he wanted to marry one of his first cousins, one of the daughters of his Uncle Isma'il. Though Ishaq, much younger than Isma'il, had already died, Isma'il was alive, well, and APPROVED when Esau approached his Uncle Isma'il for his Uncle's daughter's hand in marriage. With Uncle Isma'il present, Esau married his first cousin, one of the daughters of his Uncle Isma'il.
So when anyone says that the rivalry between Ishaq and Isma'il continues to this day, I scream, "TUZ!!!" In Genesis, the two Sons of Abraham made peace when they together buried their father, and their children intermarried. Any torn fabric was made whole THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO!
If only the Yahud would read their own scripture, Khalil today would be whole once more.
Check out YouTube, searching on "Hebron Peace Project". The spirit of peace and reconciliation literally moved me to tears. I know the Jewish narrator personally.
In the video, we hear that the wall inside the masjid separating Muslims and Jews was erected after the Baruch Goldstein massacre in 1994. I thought, perhaps incorrectly, that the wall inside the masjid was erected in 1967 with the Israeli occupation of Khalil. Fawaz, please let know when the wall was erected. Was it 1967 or 1994?
I'm sorry it took so long to reply, Fawaz ... I don't check very often. But thank you for your comments. Are you studying in Italy? I think there will be peace when people understand each other better, and that's where this dialogue helps.
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I just left this message on the Wall of the founder of this site. I can’t accept things like this and continue to write here…
Eyal,
I’m sorry if I seem to bother you again.
As the founder of this site I want to ask you if you really think that it is ok what this peacemaker says? Do you really agree that by this he’s making peace? Do you think that THIS is freedom of speech?
I have stopped to answer him.
I think – this time not of deleting my profile – but in stopping to come here at all, if this is tolerated by the owners of this site.
Can you please answer him?
http://www.mepeace.org/forum/topic/show?id=661876%3ATopic%3A72509&x=1&page=4
Reply by Paul RETI 2 hours ago
Dear Marwa,
You wrote emotionally: "I think Alice should not change" and that she is "kind, open-minded, big-hearted, honest, and a supporters of human rights".
I normally essentially agree with you Marwa. In this case, I think that your assessment of her is demonstrably wrong. Very wrong. You demonstrate that Marwa by what you've written, and by when and how and why you wrote what you did.
You wrote: "What do you want more than that?"
I want people to stop inciting others, especially people like you, Marwa. Alice has demonstrably just done that by falsely claiming victimhood.
You wrote: "Why do you think she should stop?"
Because Marwa you have just demonstrated the insidious effect of what Alice achieves with all her emotional goodness. As result of that emotional goodness, you wrote this Marwa:
"I wish all Jews and Israelis change to become like her, kind, open-minded, big-hearted, honest, and supporters of human rights."
Now Marwa you really know that in plain English what that really means is:
Other than the few nice people like Alice, all Jews and Israelis ARE NOT kind, open-minded, big-hearted, honest, and supporters of human rights.
Now that is both demonstrably very bigoted and demonstrably untrue. But that is precisely the message that Alice continues to send!
Based upon what you've written here before I don't think that you really mean that, Marwa.
On the other hand, based on the number times some others here have repeated such slander, I think that some of what Alice writes implicitly and explicitly slanders Jews and Israelis. And so either her judgment is impaired or she is just trying to buy her way into what she sees as a Jew-hating heaven.
Now do you see Marwa why I so object Alice's simplistic and shallow (and self-serving) generalizations?
Do you now understand Marwa how Alice actually victimizes and so viciously attacks others? She attacks, first. Then she claims to the victim of the response she provoked. That is a classic passive-aggressive game some people here play even better than Alice.
Thank you Marwa for again speaking so plainly and honestly. You've helped me to respond effectively and thoroughly to your very relevant and well-intentioned questions and suggestions.
Keep them coming... I really think that you're the real future. Please continue to honestly question, think, and learn with an open mind and an open heart.
Be well... --PmR
i am working as atrainer in humman wrights its good for me to work in this fild for my country
keep tutch
Sorry for getting back to you so late. I definitely will want to meet you whenever it will be possible! Yes, some of the pictures are from your town! What a disgrace, what a horror - every time I think of these people and the soldiers who are at their service (they could refuse to serve there, as far as I know) gives me goose-bumps. I always admire the immense strenght of the family that still resists them - the family who have to live in that cage - but on the other hand, their amazing resistance helps us to show the true nature of these "creatures" (meaning the settlers of Hebron)... I always have troubles to call human ANYONE who acts in such a way... No matter if Jew or Arab of Chinese or anyone else...
Hugs and looking forward to meeting you in real life!
Yes, as you write, I'm too busy, and its a pity.
Tell me what you do in Italy? When did you move there?
I understantd you and I agree with you. It wasn't a critic. I want to say that seeing a palestinian talking for peace while he know what the israelis soldiers did to his compatriots force the respect ! Very few of people can do that ! Only a peace maker can do that. So, total respect my friend !
Thanks for your kind comment and for your sincerity.
I don't know if you are being to understand me but for me it's really astounding : A man talking for peace while he put a photo of a palestinian shot dead by the Israelis soldiers ! And that's why I'm here for discovering such things and try to understand. Here in Algeria, people are absolutely in ignorance of such things. They think that all the palestinians are for the "war" and that all palestinians are feddayin.
Anyway, Allah Maâk, If one day you decide to come in algeria, my house it's open ! Not because you are a palestinian but because you are a peacemaker ! My house it's open also for all our Israelis friends who fight for peace even against their government and that, believe me, it's not easy!
Too busy and travel a lot, almost every week, I am in London now.
Not seeing any option that we come to Italy, I am sorry I have so little time to communicate, next month will be quitter.
You gave me exactly the information I was looking for! Now I feel ever more determined to advocate peace in Khalil/Hebron BEFORE al-Quds/Jerusalem. Once conflict ends in Khalil, peace will take root everyone.
Did you see the video I described to you? If you couldn't find it, here is the URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf61OV2joDY
There is precedent for reconciliation in Khalil in the Book of Genesis: the first book of the Tawrat. As you are probably aware, after years of separation, Ishaq and Isma'il, radi Allahu 'anhum, together buried their father Ibrahim, radi Allahu 'anhu.
In Khalil.
But that's not the end of the story! Ishaq had two sons, Esau and Yaqub. Isma'il had many sons and daughters. Though the Jews trace their ancestry through Ibrahim, Ishaq, and Yaqub, the older son, Esau, decided that he wanted to marry one of his first cousins, one of the daughters of his Uncle Isma'il. Though Ishaq, much younger than Isma'il, had already died, Isma'il was alive, well, and APPROVED when Esau approached his Uncle Isma'il for his Uncle's daughter's hand in marriage. With Uncle Isma'il present, Esau married his first cousin, one of the daughters of his Uncle Isma'il.
So when anyone says that the rivalry between Ishaq and Isma'il continues to this day, I scream, "TUZ!!!" In Genesis, the two Sons of Abraham made peace when they together buried their father, and their children intermarried. Any torn fabric was made whole THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO!
If only the Yahud would read their own scripture, Khalil today would be whole once more.
Working from Washington for peace in Khalil,
Aref Dajani, son of orange growers
Check out YouTube, searching on "Hebron Peace Project". The spirit of peace and reconciliation literally moved me to tears. I know the Jewish narrator personally.
In the video, we hear that the wall inside the masjid separating Muslims and Jews was erected after the Baruch Goldstein massacre in 1994. I thought, perhaps incorrectly, that the wall inside the masjid was erected in 1967 with the Israeli occupation of Khalil. Fawaz, please let know when the wall was erected. Was it 1967 or 1994?
Take care, Aref
cheers and salaam,
Mick
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